Cocoon After Dark
There’s a certain kind of story we only tell in the dark.
The kind that lingers. The kind we’ve carried in silence. The kind that needs soft lighting, no interruptions, and someone who won’t flinch.
Welcome to Cocoon After Dark—I’mQuincy Tessaverne, and this is a space for truth-telling that’s tender, textured, and unapologetically queer.
Each week, we sit with voices—mostly Black, brown, LGBTQ+—who’ve lived through things that don’t always fit into polite conversation.
We talk identity, pleasure, boundaries, grief, reinvention, and the moments that changed everything.
This isn’t small talk. It’s soul talk.
So take what you need. Leave what you don’t. And listen with your whole body.
Cocoon After Dark
From Dryness to Delight: Transforming Vaginal Health with Hormones with Kate Wells
Hot, Sassy, and Science-Backed: Unleashing Midlife Power with Kate Wells
In this fiery episode of 'Cocoon After Dark,' host Quincy gets candid with Kate Wells, hormone expert and co-founder of the audacious brand Parlor Games. Kate dives into the science and sass behind Silky Peach, a vaginal estriol cream designed to combat menopause symptoms. They explore the intricate relationship between hormonal changes and sex life, demystify bioidentical hormones, and share cheeky anecdotes about breaking medical taboos. From boosting libido to tackling incontinence, this episode is a no-holds-barred celebration of female empowerment and sexuality in midlife.
00:00 Introduction to Cocoon After Dark
00:55 Kate Wells on Menopause and Relationships
04:05 Building a Business Rooted in Vagina Sass and Science
09:44 The Sexy, Sassy Sisterhood Community
11:47 Transformative Stories and Product Impact
25:29 Understanding Bioidentical Hormones
34:24 Understanding Estriol Absorption
34:48 Using Estriol Cream in Different Ways
35:35 Estrogen in Face Creams
37:56 Menopause and Healthcare Challenges
41:09 The Benefits of DHEA Cream
46:22 Progesterone and Its Importance
49:11 Chaos Calmer: Anti-Anxiety Cream
54:26 Reclaiming Vitality and Health
01:00:49 Final Thoughts and Resources
LINKS:
Silky Peach: https://www.parlor-games.com/shop/SPCMASTER.html
Vibrant Third: https://www.parlor-games.com/shop/Vibrant-Third.html
Rebounce Cream: https://www.parlor-games.com/shop/ReBounce.html
Chaos Tamer: https://www.parlor-games.com/shop/Chaos-Calmer.html
More Wow: https://www.parlor-games.com/shop/MoreWOW.html
Last but NOT least the LUBE: https://www.parlor-games.com/shop/BNL.html
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Hello everyone. Welcome to Cocoon After Dark, where soft power meets hard truths. Tonight we're joined by Kate Wells, hormone expert, biochem nerd and co-founder of Parlor Games, the cheeky science-backed brand, saving the world one vagina at a time. Kate isn't just changing the narrative around menopause. She's rewinding the whole damn script with a voice that cuts through medical gaslighting, and a mission rooted in sisterhood and science. She's here to talk taboo truth, and the transformation of midlife. Welcome to the show, Kate.
Kate:Thank you so much for having me on. I'm very happy to be here.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Thank you. It was so great. It took a lot of connecting, but I'm glad we were finally able to do it'cause you are one busy science nerd as you say yourself. We're gonna start with a couple of easier kinds of get to know you questions. But I wanna know, firstly, what's one question that you wish more podcasters actually asked you?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Oh, I, you know what I don't get asked often and I think is a, an important question is how are men impacted when women finally step into this place of, restoring some function to their body, and how does that affect their relationship?
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:That does sound like a good one. Do you wanna talk about it now?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:I can do that.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Okay.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:and if I could tell you a little story about what happened today,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Yes.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:I ha I had a posting on Facebook for some items. this guy comes to pick up these mats and we get talking. He says, what do you do here? And of course, I am right out there. I say, we, our flagship product is a vaginal estriol for ladies who've got some, dry bits going on and it's impacting their lives. And this is, this guy is great. He's tell me more. Do you have a card? starts talking about how his wife is 62 and it's impacting their relationship. He loves her. He says she keeps herself fit, you know, and looks after herself. But this area, she doesn't know what to do and it's impacting them. And I just went with it. I will talk to any complete stranger about the issues of vaginal dryness and how you can resolve it with Estriol. but I think that story is common. There are lots of women who are deeply loved by their partner. They feel the loss of intimacy that comes when vaginal dryness, sets in and becomes such a painful issue. They want to be supportive but they miss that connection and they too benefit. And the relationships benefit. Once a woman feels good about her body, again, safe to have any kind of penetrative sex. she feels better about herself and that flows into relationships I just had to giggle because here I am talking once again to a complete stranger about vaginal dryness and that there are solutions to it. So I think our product helps not just women, it does help the men in their lives or their partners, whomever they may be. And of course, the relationship. So it's a three phase win there.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Oh, that's great. I'm glad you talked about that because I can imagine it would be similar to after birth experience, right? Where the partner, whomever they are, doesn't quite know how to navigate the. Private parts and the leaky breasts and the
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Right.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Postpartum bleeding and discharge and all those kinds of things. So I can imagine how helpful this is. I'm currently not in a relationship and I'm fully supposedly into menopause'cause I had a medical hysterectomy a couple of years ago. But I started on some bioidentical hormones about four years before I had that hysterectomy. So I haven't really had any issues myself, but I'm clearly a Gen Xer born in 1968. I am so thankful that there are people like you out there that can help this situation, but what is it like building a business, unapologetically rooted in vagina sass and science? What is that like?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:I have been, blessed in that my best friend, still my best friend, is my business partner. And we both have a sense of humor, but she's super sassy. so right from the very beginning we lent into this, whether we are gonna talk about this. We are not pulling any punches. We are not going to use the euphemism, although. To some extent, we had to use little euphemisms on Facebook to begin with. When we were posting we couldn't say the word vagina. So we went to lady bits and actually it just hit the spot. We decided right up front we would. Going to let people laugh about this. We weren't gonna shy away from hard conversations. We were going to lean into those. We were gonna build our confidence in talking about, human physiology, which this is, it's just human physiology. And normalizing the conversation about this. And when we look at the letters and emails that we get from our customers it's all about appreciating not just the product that works but how we have lent into this just with humor and to make it approachable for women. And so we just decided that we were gonna be sassy. On our private Facebook group is Sexy, sassy Sisterhood. Brainchild my, my business partner. And and it was this, it's this safe space where women can be sassy, where we can share ideas, where we can ask questions. And it has transformed me, Quincy, I, I've always loved the science. I've loved, the clinical aspects of this. I love to teach, this has transformed me in how the universe has brought me into this space bring this to the world. And, I could never have done it without Kirsty and I, we couldn't be doing it without our amazing team. So there's a high degree of humility, within me a about what we've been able to do. So it's just, it's been transformative. That's what it's been.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:That's amazing. How did you guys come up with the name Parlor Games?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Oh, we sat around and realized that we were sitting around formulating ideas and women have sat around in parlors formulating ideas since there have been caves. I think women have sat around formulating ideas. So we went with a parlor from that point of view, and we went with games because really we wanted to get the games, the sexy games back in women's lives. And again, unapologetically. Yeah. We're after you having some fun out there. You've lost that love and feeling quite literally. And we want women to get back to having fun and games with a chosen one.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Oh, that's so sweet. When you talk about that you guys had to embrace this new vocabulary and talking about it with strangers, were you always like that? Because I know myself, I have always been a very sexual person, but I'm very comfortable talking about sex and talking to people about it, and I don't get embarrassed and things like that, but that's been my entire life. Has it been like that for you too?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Oh no, not at all. I'm British, for heaven's sake. No good heavens, no good woman.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:I love that.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:I have navigated my way into this and I do fall back on, I'm not a clinician. But I have spent the last 23 years around clinicians and in clinical conversations. And so fall back on just very straightforward, descriptive, without kind of squirrely weirdness about it. And I have found that if you're direct with that, and if you're just very matter of fact about it, other people will respond. Their potential embarrassment disappears, and it's the, and it's replaced by curiosity, Because you're just not making it weird. You're just making it normal.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:So when you had that first conversation, once you guys decided to do this, how much fumbling was there? Did you feel like you were like making a porno?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Yes. We flailed for quite a while just resolving things and I, those first, two, two weeks, the first two months, the first six months, Kirsty and I were probably talk 17 to 25 times a day trying to, solve the next thing or answer the next thing, or how are we gonna say this? How we, and over time, that diminished, as we built our repertoire of content and how we were gonna say something oh yes. Fair amount of flailing, but one of the. I think because we have been friends for so long and because, pretty early on we divided our responsibilities in and trusted the other do their thing. I think that cut down a lot of the flailing and and we don't hesitate to make decisions. We're really fairly swift decision makers and I think that's one of the ways, a young company can sometimes struggle if you just won't make decisions and that's not me and it's not her. Yeah, we made mistakes. We go, oh, okay, let's learn from that and move on.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:That's great. So in your Facebook group, this sexy, sassy sisterhood, it's not your average Facebook group obviously. What do you think women are really craving in communities like that?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Information is the first thing because a place where, we, I don't it, it's must be 45,000 strong. Now if you ask a question,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Wow, congratulations.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:from like a hundred people probably within the first half an hour. It's also community. Because women in general don't sit around and talk about these intimate areas of health over coffee in the local coffee shop we can tend to feel isolated. If we have an issue that's going on to, to do with this typically private area of our body we tend to think we're alone. We're the only one who's dealing with it. Because we're not sharing. And I think that's one of the big things that our customers get from this group is they're not alone. And they do have community and a now and again, someone will vent. They've had a horrible interaction with a practitioner who dismissed them, or they've had a tough conversation with a spouse who just won't understand, isn't able to understand. this is a place where they can just let that out and just free, free it from themselves, that it doesn't stick within them. And they'll be heard and they'll be supported and, reassured by group members. So it's that, I think that's truly, that's the aspect of the sisterhood as well. That makes a difference.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:That's beautiful. What is the biggest transformation you've seen in either the group or in an email or a text message or something that you've got from somebody that started using, it's called Silky Peach, is that right? Silky Peach. Okay.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:'cause. We want everybody's peach to be silky.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:I love that
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:with our naming.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Clearly.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:in general. Our team, oh my God, so many of them are women and we just laugh. We just laugh. We have fun. Oh, biggest transformation. I think the ones that, oh, that still managed to bring, tears to my eyes are when someone it's been a long time, like 15 years that they have not been able to have sex. It's been
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Wow.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:And they start in the Silky peach cream and they, gradually get better and eventually they're brave enough to attempt sex and it's amazing.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Ah, beautiful.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:are the stories that like, oh, it's all worth it for that.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Wow.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:the long hours that it takes to do a startup. On all the challenges of being a startup, in, in this kind of environment. It's so worth it when you have those stories. And it's not so much, if when it's a a partner that didn't understand it was when it was a partner who did understand and loved them dearly, and they just accepted that, oh no, that part of the relationship was done. And we're like, oh, wait, no, you're not.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Yeah.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:so that it's 180 degree turnaround and it's just, it fills my heart with gratitude every time I see a story like that.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Wow. And I bet too, as a woman, just in and of itself, but as a scientist, knowing that something really as simple as the estriol that you're using can transform people. So how long does it take, actually, for somebody who's coming off a very Sahara like desert Spell?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Yes. If it's, if it is like the Sahara and they're like literally sandpaper it can take six We don't lose our estrogen overnight, even when there is a hysterectomy. And so that hormone signaling changes very quickly. It can take a while for levels of hormones to diminish diminish and it doesn't happen overnight. And so for someone who's been, 10, 15 years since menopause, can take six months because the first step is you're putting a little bit of estriol in and the body goes, oh, what the heck just happened here? Sometimes it can react to that. Sometimes it can prompt other reactions to having that hormone around again, even though it's a very gentle hormone. Then there's this step where you're actually going to repair the skin. One of the ways I talk about it is, think back to being a kid and you fell off your bike and you grazed your knee. You remember what that mess looked like on your knee. The inside of the vagina after a long time without estrogen can look like that one massive internal graze
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Oh gosh,
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:I know there's a visual for you
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:yes.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:When women are like how long is it gonna take? I wanna be ready, I wanna be ready. Like just allow that healing time. And the healing process itself sets up some inflammation and so you are repairing that, the skin surface. Then you've got to resolve like that residual inflammation and then you've got to get the skin to plump up and be strong so it won't tear again. And then you are, you're into maintaining it so that it doesn't tear that it doesn't lose that flexibility and that can take as long as six months. We did survey our customers and for many of them, about 40% fuel, some pretty strong results. Within two months 40% will be, and four months. And then the rest is after that. On a very rare occasion. We do see stories where someone, it has taken up to a year just because there was damage it took a long time.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Wow. And what about eventually when they're ready to attempt some sort of insertion how do you help them get past those mental blocks? Is that something you support as well, or do you have a group that you talk about that
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:The, I think, oh yes, women don't hesitate, if they've got those nervousness, that nervousness and that anxiety, they will ask questions and get lots of responses. And we also have a lot of articles, blog articles, oh, five years into this. We, think we probably have something like 140 blogs that cover a lot of different topics. Then we also have another product called Chaos Calmer, which which is for anxiety
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:I like that.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:There can be some nervousness about that thought of penetrative sex. and so just, setting the scene, just being relaxed not being tense about it, using the chaos calmer, just on your skin, on your inner wrists or something on your outer wrist, just help you calm so that you're not, you are not setting yourself up, for failure, by worrying about it too much. Lots of full play. One of the challenges that women face is that oftentimes that, the muscles may have atrophied, they may have become tighter. And so penetration can truly be painful. And we have an article on dilators, and again a customer could ask that question in sexy, sassy sisterhood and get lots of responses from people about different dilators that they have tried. Yes, yeah, we do have resources for those who want to dig in and see if they can find something on that. Definitely.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:And then once they get to that point, is it still suggested that they continue to use the silky peach? Do you use it for life now after that? Okay.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:much, yes. Because our bodies are no longer making estrogen ourselves. We do need to replace it. I was thinking about this today, it's like, how do you share that concept?'cause some practitioners, they'll test women's hormones and they'll say, oh, you're normal. Of course they're low. That's normal. Livy normal isn't optimal. You get to winter and it's cold in the house and you say that's normal. It's cold outside, it's winter. You don't just put clothing on, you actually turn the thermostat up so you've got some heat you can do the same thing with hormones. It is normal that you're not making them, but it's not optimal because you have all these symptoms. So let's add some back in. And when you do it wisely women can stay on hormones for the rest of their life. That, that is part of a much bigger conversation about. Hormones are not just for reproduction. They have so many functions in our bodies, and when we stop making them, that's when a, different variations and symptoms start to appear. Now living a lot longer than menopause these days, so why not into our awesomeness, our wisdom, our knowledge, make sure that we are functioning optimally for that, I don't know, 30, 40 years after menopause. But like I say, that's a bigger conversation about hormone use. But when it comes to silky peach cream, yes, the vagina and the vulva, and of course, that whole structure that supports the bladder, that will benefit from consistent use over time.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:And then how do you insert it? Is it just with your fingers?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:it's just a little little bottle with a pump mechanism on it. So you pump it onto your finger and apply it to the vulva. Sometimes when women are starting off, that can sting just because anything would sting, don't misinterpret that as I'm allergic to it. It's just that the skin is so thin, it can be so sore. so what you can do is apply it on the outer labia rather than the inner labia, or even at the crease between the labia and the top of the leg. Essentially what you're doing is you're just refilling a reservoir of estrogen into that tissue. And it will just gradually soak it up, a bit like, when you have a sponge on the counter and it's been there for two or three days and it's all dried up. You just. If you stick it under the forcet, it's just gonna spring back to life. We can't do that with Estriol. You can't just stick it under, can't just stick your vagina under a forcet of Estriol and do it like that, but you're gradually refilling it, a little bit at a time. And that sponge is just gonna back to life. The vagina's just gonna spring back to life gradually.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:So do you hear women saying that once the moisture is back, right? That you're functioning more like you did when you were younger and before menopause and things like that, that your libido comes back right away? Or is it something that is more mental, that it doesn't go hand in hand?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Women's libido, honestly, if someone had nailed that don't know that we would be having the problem. It we, women's libido is so different from men's libido. And it's a complex topic, a lot of it is to do with hormones. but a lot of it is to do with stress. When we're in our fifties and even into our sixties, we, we may be parenting still. We may be parenting our parents, we may be still working. We're still trying to juggle a lot of things as our body is changing at time at the same time. And I don't think we give enough attention to the impact that stress has on libido. De-stressing is important. again, is a much bigger conversation that we have to have as. As a country the role of testosterone for women. it's not covered under many insurance plans and yet testosterone it does have to be prescribed because it's class two substance but there's a role for testosterone in helping libido. So on the one hand, you can get the fixings working, you can get the physiology right, and then there's other components to that flow into libido as well.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:That makes sense. That definitely makes sense. I also take a topical testosterone more for muscles than anything else because I feel like as a double Scorpio, I have a very healthy libido. Has not changed at all. Which sometimes scares me because I'm thinking, isn't this supposed to dial down at some point? And if it does, I'm gonna probably freak out because I'm gonna be like, no, I'm old. Like that Jamie Lee Curtis thing when she looks in the mirror and she's I'm old, but oh, I'm hoping that never happens. Do you ever feel the pull to like over intellectualize the symptoms and how do you reconnect with the body or how do you suggest women reconnect the body and their emotions and the grief of those hormonal shifts?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Again you're talking to a British scientist here? I do over intellectualize personally. I do. But the last, 20 years allowed me to understand more about the spiritual aspect of life. I'm a reiki master. And so I have learned to, myself more, to be able to sit with myself more, to be able to identify, the stories that run through my head. Not just to shut them down, but to question them and tell'em to be quiet and, stop beating up on myself. I think women are uniquely seem to be uniquely able to support themselves. By the fact that we do sit around and we do talk about things and we do share ideas. It's different. I'm 63 the things that I talk about with my friends. It's different now. In my age group to the things that I talked about 15 years ago.'cause you're dealing with different issues. But I think women are un, again, un uniquely good at creating space for each other to, to talk through what it feels like to lose a part of yourself, or at least to have a part of yourself change. Often talk about how we're losing things as we get older. And what that narrative misses is what we're gaining in terms of our wisdom and our understanding, and for many of us, patience. And kindness. and so it's, than a loss it's like a transformation. And to go back to. The idea of, when we ensure that the women in our culture are strong and healthy and emotionally supported and as well as physically supportive, they add so much to communities. Whether that's a small community in a workplace, a community of, in a small circle or to, civic commitment. So I think for everyone, it's an ongoing journey about your relationship with yourself and how you gentle yourself and how you're kind to yourself. And and I'm a work in progress to
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Absolutely
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:all the time.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:I feel scientists are. So needed for over intellectualizing things because there's people like me that are like, oh yeah, if I trust you and you tell me to do this, I'll probably do it. I don't even think twice about it. So I appreciate and respect over intellectualizing and saying, wait, stop. This might not be good for you I just tend to jump in with both feet. But what's a, like a common misconception about bioidentical hormones, and I want you to explain that to what bioidentical hormones are that you wish would just go away already. I.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:So let me first just explain the term bioidentical hormones. So we're on the same page. we make hormones in our body and they have distinct chemical structures, combinations of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, and, yeah, we just make those when we, you can manufacture hormones have those exact same chemical structure. If you're making a topical hormone, for example, you make a cream base if you're going to make a progesterone cream, you would then buy the progesterone. Which has, been made by a lab have the exact same chemical structure as the progesterone that we make in our body. And you mix that into the cream. You work on it to make sure you've got the right amount in there. So that when you put that on your skin, your body goes, oh, progesterone, I know what to do with progesterone. This exactly is the same as my body makes. Oh, thank goodness, I appreciate you giving me progesterone. Now I can think again. Now I can sleep again. So bioidentical means the same as the body and those are synthesized, they are made in a lab. Now in contrast, there are synthetic hormones made by many of the pharmaceutical companies that do not have the same chemical structure the hormones we make in our body. And those, there's a category of those not progesterone but progestins, they are progesterone like, but not the same. so they won't have the same function in the body as progesterone does. so I think one of the biggest misconceptions is that bi that bioidentical hormone replacement is the same as, the synthetic hormone replacement. And for some varying reasons, the synthetic hormone replacement that many of the pharmaceutical labs make because it's not the same. As the hormone made by the body, there are potential to have side effects. Progestins, for example, can increase the risk for blood clots. And because these products, the names have got all mixed up. So hormone replacement has got a bad wrap. It's not bioidentical hormones that have got a bad wrap. It's the pharmaceutical synthetic hormones that have got the bad wrap. And I think, we strive to con to. Continue to help women understand the difference between the two. The challenge is a lot of practitioners don't understand the difference between the two. And so have become afraid of hormones. That whole topic again, another topic to do with, the Women's Health Initiative, declared that estrogen causes cancer, which causes utter nonsense. Estrogen is actually quite protective of cancer. So there's so much misconception around the terminology there. And that there's a lot that can be done to help practitioners understand and to help everyday women understand.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:So in a perfect world, how would you disseminate that information to all of these health practitioners that are saying, oh no, you don't need hormones. You went through menopause, et cetera, et cetera.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Oh my gosh, the perfect world. I haven't, I can't even imagine what that looks like because there is oh, I try and avoid politics, but there is, there was so much money invested in not sharing that information that I think it's an uphill battle. I think one of the key routes you could take is to have way more education on menopause and hormones for anyone going through medical school. There are some people who have, maybe five, 10 hours on menopause and hormones in the whole of their medical education. And there they are in a, in a medical practice as a gp, patients coming in with this whole host of symptoms and they're going off like 10 hours of training. so I think it has to start with the education process when doctors go through. Through medical school. I don't want to dismiss doctors. I think, biochemistry, is complex and understanding it to the point where you're really focusing on root causes and trying to resolve root causes takes a particular kind of a practitioner who, who just loves to wade, swim frolic in biochemistry and not all practitioner. That's not why they're there. so think we need to do a better job of creating specialties for menopause care and have that, those specialties, really well educated on hormones.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Right, and you would think with all of the subspecialties in medicine anyway, that there wouldn't have already been a branch for this. Because, talking about boomers and now Gen X coming up into this whole, or even. A little bit younger than that, coming up into the whole perimenopause stage. This is a significant part of our lives now, if For about 40 ish years we're menstruating, but then for 50, possibly 60 years, we aren't menstruating anymore. It's gonna be a huge market to start with, but it's gonna be a big chapter in our lives,
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:I agree. And I think, women's health is relegated to gynecology and obstetrics, and in my experience it is the ray ob GYN, who really immerses themselves in hormones. So there's a gap there. Where I do see a real surge interest is among functional medicine practitioners, integrative medicine practitioners, naturopathic doctors who attend, a four year medical school or naturopathic medical school. That there are some of those smartest biochemists out there. and the, there are subsets of practitioners who really do understand that this is important work and are digging into it. So this, there's signs things are changing,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Okay, good. Awesome. The next kid that I hear that says they wanna go to medical school, I'm gonna say you should. You should really invest your education in menopause work, for sure. Let's go back to Silky Peach. So if I were say 40, when would you suggest that I started using Silky peach? Do we use it before perimenopause symptoms set in? Do we use it when we fe feel that's. First weird tingling, drying up feeling in the vagina. I don't know exactly how it feels, but I'm guessing.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:So 40 is often a little bit young because you're still making plenty of estrogen usually for most women. I'm gonna be generalizing here, for perimenopause, if I can just insert this message to everybody who's listening. Estrogen is the one that gets all the attention, gets the limelight. But progesterone is your natural balancer to estrogen, and that starts to drop much sooner than estrogen does. And so many of the symptoms that we know we associate with perimenopause are because there's a gap between progesterone and. Estradiol. And so you can make that transition much easier by using progesterone to close that gap. And we do have a progesterone queen called Vibrant Thread. It is typically when estrogen itself starts to drop, that we begin to see those kind of itchy symptoms. Maybe you don't recover quite as quickly as you thought. Once you've had sex, or you have sex and you used to be able to have it the next day and then the next day. And it gets to the point where I like, you know what? I'm just gimme a day here. that's your signal. Oh. That skin is not replenishing and repairing itself quite as fast as it used to. yes. Start just as soon as you feel that, so that you don't get to the point where the skin has lost its elastic elasticity and it's lost its natural lubrication. Watch for that kind of tingly feeling. Yeah.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Okay. And then how long after you use Silky Peach, say in a day, do, does the partner need to wait for oral sex or penetration or finger stimulation or what have you? Is there a risk to the partner having any of those hormones
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:So
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:absorbed?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:amount of estriol in the cream is pretty low. Es a estriol is estrogen. So it doesn't have that mu that much effect on a part on a bit, on a partner. And two, it's. It's absorbed really quickly. So 20 minutes is usually just fine to allow that stri l to cross the across the skin barrier. Some of our ladies will apply it at bedtime, after they're just as they're getting to lie down thinking, oh, that's it for the evening. But then the fun and game start and it's fine.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:The parlor games begin.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:You probably, if you were going to go to oral sex, you might just wanna wipe it off. If you've just, applied it within the last half an hour. Just because the cream itself does not taste peachy, we do get that question.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Oh, okay.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:And it's not for human consumption, so you might wanna wipe it off and then just reapply once the fun and games are over.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:But it does smell like peach. Is that true? No. So it's just the name.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:smell, it's
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Okay.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:it.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:And that's for safety issues, I'm sure. And allergies and things. Okay.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:it as clean. It's a very clean combination of ingredients in there yeah.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:So when I've heard people start to talk about putting estrogen on their face or in their face cream, are you guys thinking of developing that and what is the science behind estrogen on the, like skin on the face.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:We did go backwards and forwards about we, do, we make our a special face cream, and we decided not one with estriol in it because you can just take the soggy peach cream, you can just put it on your face. And,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Oh, nice.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:now a lot of our ladies report, they'll use it around their eyes. Some of them will put it around, the smile lines around their mouth. And and oftentimes I'll use Silky Peach on the vaginal area one day or vulva one day, and then on the face the next. So we didn't, we just didn't see the point in making a separate estrogen cream for'cause.'cause it works just fine in any location. It's going to plump up the skin. That's what we want it to do internally. It's going to do the same thing on our faces. It, it helps collagen to, all the strands of collagen to hold onto each other. And so that the skin is firming up a little bit as well as plumping up. We do have a separate non-hormonal face cream called mo. Wow. I love the feel of that on my skin. I always have some here, I've got some in front of me here. And of the things I like to do, if I'm in a meeting or something, I'll just sit here and I'm like, oh, I haven't applied any of this for a little while. And I'll rub it on my skin just'cause it feels so good. But essentially
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:love that.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:the etri, the es, the silky peach cream that the astri is just doing the same thing on your face as it is down below.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:That's fascinating. So could you use it on your lips because you know there is so much volume loss in lips as we age. Could you use it on your mouth as long as, like you said, you're not ingesting it.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:I, I wouldn't put it on your lips. It's Easy to lick them unexpectedly, And then you're absorbing it. No, I, it doesn't have a safety profile for that,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Okay. Could you make one like in a chapstick for us? Because. That would be really nice.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:That's right. to filler.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Yeah.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:it would be interesting to ask our customers, who use them more. Wow. It's do you use it around your mouth? And what difference does that make?
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Very interesting. So you say that menopause doesn't have to suck, but for so many it still does. Why do you think this stage of life is so under supported?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Oh, it's such a big question. It's such a big question. To go, to, go back to what I was saying about, doctors not having the training. they don't know, they don't know what's going on and even women doctors who have not been through menopause. They just don't know what it's like to feel so exhausted to just to lose your mind, just to feel confused, to feel like you, you've lost your cape, your superwoman cape, and you can't do anything without your superwoman. They, people don't get it until you're going through it. Our lack of imagination and empathy, I think and a busy, and our sys, our healthcare system isn't set up have a conversation with a woman about menopause. When you've got seven minutes with the doctor you've got 14 symptoms, that's. Half, that's half a minute on each symptom. And we're not set up our system isn't set up to support women. The knowledge isn't there set up to support women. Women are getting out there trying to find information for themselves. We have companies like ours, who are trying to help women with good information, with products at work. We're not alone. There is a demand there. You mentioned Gen X who are not going quietly on perimenopause. We have, there is so much potential to help women. And we're having to do it ourselves. Women have always done it ourselves, and we're continuing to have to do it ourselves. And truly, have the vision. My, my biggest vision is that. Any woman can go into a practice and say, I am dealing with these symptoms. It's related to perimenopause or menopause. And they will get the exact care that they need. And companies like ours don't need to exist. That would be amazing. just think we're a long way from that. And so in the interim, w with the lack of resources, games and our product line and our education and other companies out there are having to fill the gap. And it and it is podcasts like yours who prompt the conversation, who give women ideas and give them hope that they don't have to flail their way through, through per post.'cause you don't, you were saying earlier that you have had a relatively easy menopause. I did too. I got on progesterone when I was 47 and I just flew through menopause. I think I've had six hot flashes in my life. I just flew through menopause. I've had a tough time of it over the summer, with some family loss. And I got through that because I was on DHEA, I was on progesterone and I was on estrogen. I, there, there are a lot of women who are going through tough stuff. Who don't have that. Have those resources and I, gosh, we have to change that. We have to
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:You mentioned DHEA just now. Do you take it in vitamin form or is there some other way that you take it?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:We have a cream.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Oh.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:One of the challenges, if you're taking an oral DHEA and I don't wanna dismiss it, I'm just going to draw the difference between them. If you're using an oral DHEA, it goes through your stomach and it is broken down in the liver, and the liver will metabolize 80% of it, so it won't be available as DHEA. The remaining DHEA is converted to a stored form and that stored form while useful. It is too large a molecule to cross into the blood-brain barrier. And DHEA has so many neuroprotective neuroactive effects. when you put cream on A-D-H-E-A cream on you put it on the inner arm or behind the knees or the tops of the feet. Anywhere where the skin is thin, it's gonna get quickly into the bloodstream and into your lymphatic system. from there, it's delivered throughout the body into the brain. and so it's what's called bio, bioavailable creams are an extremely efficient way to get hormones into the body because they don't have to go through the liver first.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Oh, that's fascinating. So I have been wasting my money on DHEA vitamins, and I should have been buying parlor games.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Again, I don't want to dismiss it. Sometimes it works well and
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:No, you already sold me. See how easily I'm sold. I'm going to finish the bottle and then I'm going to subscribe to Games. And do you ship to everyone? Every state, country.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Yeah. In the US
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Okay.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:We called it rebound
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Okay.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:We were making this and I was trying it for the first time and starting to use this, I was running around saying I'm back. And I felt like it had taken 10 years of my life.'cause I was 60 when we were trying it. And I'm like, I remember what this felt like. Just because it has all these neuroactive effect, it's, and it's your wellness hormone and it diminishes just gradually, steadily with age. And, we run out of it and it's the foundation for hormone for many of our sex hormones. And it's so good for that feeling of wellness and for stress management. The three years that I have been using it all the growth in par games and all the new things that come along when you're growing a business, have been made possible by rebounds, DHEA.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:What did you forget you were missing and what was that new feeling?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:You just my energy, my cognitive ability my capacity to focus on this task. I'm mired in some numbers and I'm looking at this spreadsheet, so I'm doing this and I'm doing this, and then someone says, oh, can you write an article on this? I'm like, yes, I can. I can write an article on that, and then I've got a meeting to go to where there's some strategy discussion and there's, then there's that. And I'm like, oh, there's a problem to solve. I'll just go and problem solve it. So it was all those things, we call it multitasking. I call it task switching. So my capacity to switch between tasks and to think really effectively while doing those tasks, had lost track how my capacity to do those have been diminishing. it's like that frog in water, you put the frog in cold water, it doesn't notice, and you gradually turn the heat up and the frog doesn't notice. It's a bit like that with cognitive function and hormones. At least it was for me.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:I don't usually put frogs in water, i'm very curious about this analogy. Are we talking about eating frog's legs or
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:No.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:this must be an English joke you guys,'cause I'm not getting it.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:It's about, it's a kind of the analogy for how change happens. So insidiously so quietly that Notice it. the, the comparison is you put a frog in cold water, the frog's perfectly happy, but you gradually turn up the heat because it's in there. It's not noticing the change. And eventually you get to the point where it's too hot for the, for life sustaining environment for the frog. I'm not suggesting we all run out and experiment on this, by the way, ladies. It's the analogy for slow, steady, incremental changes that we just don't notice. And so with this stark contrast to putting the DHEA on my skin and just feeling its impact straight away. I turned like back into a kangaroo,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:wow. How quickly,
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Within two or three days I was like,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Kate? You definitely sold me E. Everyone. We have to buy this seriously. Oh my gosh. Okay. I will definitely put that in the show notes. Actually. I'll link each product individually in the show notes so people can go, what did Quincy say? Or like they're trying to read back. They'll see it or what Kate said. Definitely. This is so exciting. Wow. What more can you tell us about your line that you have then as we're talking about all these wonder things, we've got Cream, we've got vege cream, we've got DHEA. What else do we have?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:So progesterone cream, when we hadn't been long making silky peach cream, the estrogen cream before we like, oh yeah, if we're gonna do this, we need a progesterone cream as well. And as I mentioned earlier, it is the gap between, estrogen and progesterone as we start to go through perimenopause that cause some of the worst symptoms. Progesterone is important for sleeping. It is important for digestion, it's important for blood sugar management. It is important for our bones. It is important for our, for making gaba, which is one of our calming, happy neurotransmitters. Without progesterone or rather regular supply of progesterone, all of those functions change. We talk about, women, having these rages, just because somebody's chewing a little bit too noisily next to them, it's that archetypal stop chewing. And the rage comes not just from estro it's not because of you've got estrogen surging, it's because you don't have progesterone balancing it. And so using progesterone in the second half of your cycle, through days 15 through 28 of your cycle, goes a long way to closing that gap. Then it's more than that. When you're going through perimenopause, it's all about balance, but after menopause, now it's about hormone sufficiency. And to go back to my phrase earlier, hormones are for life, not just for reproduction. Progesterone has over 400 functions in the body. Estrogen has, at least 250 there are receptors for these hormones everywhere. There are receptors for testosterone everywhere, and DHEA. And when we lose these hormones you, you've got all these receptors, these cells saying, Hey, where's the hormone? Hey, where's the hormone? Eventually, no hormone. They're like, okay, I'll be quiet. And people don't feel good anymore, and their bodies aren't functioning well. we added the progesterone so that women could maintain a supply of progesterones for so many functions. So then another product that we carry, it's not ours but we carry it is a bio nude lube by a company called Good, clean Love. We did a lot of research sometimes our work is really hard and involved this was a challenge. We all research lubes and reported back to each other. I told you.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Where can I sign up for this? I want to be part of the research group, the control group.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:But we settled on bio New Lube just'cause it has a really good safety profile. The lube itself has a very similar pH to the body the vaginal pH. and a similar consistency so that it doesn't dry out internally when you're using it. So we carry that. But let me go back to our Chaos Calmer. This is our kind of anti-anxiety cream that can also help with sleep as well. We know we're at levels of anxiety in our country, and our chaos, calmer. Is a combination of gaba, which is a calming neurotransmitter. Magnesium, which is very good for calming. And l-theanine, also an amino acid, which is very good for calming things down but also helping with focus. And so this combination queen, for someone who gets anxious during the day, they can apply this and it just helps'em calm down, gets them, from the edge of the starting to have a panic attack, calms them down. And then we have other customers who will use it to help go to sleep at night because it's so calming. One of our employees she's unbelievable amount of energy and so has her daughter and her daughter Aila uses this as her sleepy time cream. just one pump of this and she uses at bedtime to help her go to sleep. She's been using, she's, yeah, she's been using that for three years now. She's six, I think.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Wow.'cause I was just gonna ask you if I could use it with my 12-year-old, because she just recently was diagnosed with generalized anxiety and a panic disorder and
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Yeah.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:night is when it's absolutely, it's worse.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:And so
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Wow.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:customers who will wake with anxiety and they'll put the cream on and, it's not like instant but it will help calm that chatter down, that just the churning that goes on in the head it can just calm that down. That's one of the roles that the the altheine helps with just to calm that chatter. Yes.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:I know for myself on occasion, I have accidentally taken my oral progesterone in the morning instead of at night. I'll just look at my vitamin thing and. Just not even realize it's daytime or nighttime.'cause I'm so busy and I'll take my whole nighttime load that includes my oral progesterone and about an hour later I feel like I am as high as a kite because it works so well. And you know what? I don't notice it at night when I'm going to bed. Obviously because probably my cortisol is in a different place and my own melatonin is in a different place. But it's such a relaxation hormone, like you say, re I can see why people need it to sleep, but Feel like on days it's gonna be really stressful. It's pretty good to take a little pump of this before you, go into a meeting or a speaking engagement or something.'cause you just feel so lovely. Yeah.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Yes. Progesterone is really good for increasing gaba. So yes, it can really help calm with calming.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Yeah, the first time it ever happened to me, I was, I just dropped off my daughter at school and I think it was like pre-K or kindergarten, and I was driving and I'm like, holy crap, what is going on? I honestly feel like somebody drugged my coffee, but the only people that live at my house are me and my pre-kindergarten. It's not either of us. And then when I got home, I was like re cleaning up my bathroom or whatever, and I went, oh, I accidentally took my nighttime vitamins and my progesterone. So yes, that definitely is a clue. And I actually, sometimes at night when I've had a really stressful day, I'll take two doses of it because it's a hundred milligrams to get me to get into that relaxed place more. And I don't feel like it's not addictive, obviously. But I don't feel like I'm having to take melatonin. I'm not having to take a nibble of, Xanax or something like that. I'm just like, oh, just take a little bit extra progesterone. And I literally just it's like this big warm hug, so everyone, if you need a hug at night and you don't have a partner, or you have a partner that doesn't like to hug you, you should probably get some of Kate's progesterone.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Or progesterone or a chaos. Calmer,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Yes.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:not everybody wants to be on an antidepressant. They do have side effects. And, when they were invented, they were intended to be used just for six weeks a, as a holdover, while someone was able to make some of the changes necessary to stop that the anxiety and the worry. But they have become like every day. Use. And so they, their effectiveness diminishes over time. Plus they do have the side effects, they can really contribute to constipation because they are, they have this too calming effect which slows gut motility, and they can reduce libido. So not everybody wants to take an antidepressant. And so that's where the chaos karma comes in. It's a, like you say, non-addictive approach to anxiety.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Oh, that's fantastic. I, as soon as we hang up from this, I'm going to go online and just buy everything. Thank you for that. But before we go, because I know you have many other things to do, and I promised you an hour of record time, can we talk a little bit more about reclaiming your lady bits? That blend of humor and heat is powerful and what I'm really hoping is what do you hope women will feel when they use your product?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:I think for me it's the first level is hope. Hope for a renewed relationship with themselves, perhaps a renewed relationship with their partner. And then after that it's re reclaiming the fun aspect of their lives, that's what we want. We want women feeling good about themselves. Yeah getting that back. So many women are so sassy, and they kinda lose it. It's easy to lose that as you get older and I think that's a shame.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:It is. It really is. They just lose that sparkle. And I think that. Once more people start to get on bioidentical hormones and all of these amazing things, like you mentioned DHEA, which I didn't even realize could be even better than it was.'cause I feel like most of the times I can be with it. I do feel like I get foggy when I'm having a discussion sometimes. But aside from that, but once we see how universally women change in our communities and even in our families and how it will change the dynamics. One for the younger people, but what it will be like for our daughters and my granddaughter. Just being able to go, wow, once I turn a certain age. I'm not gonna lie, when I turned 40, because I knew so many sick people at, in their forties, I thought when I went for my 40 year physical, that I would walk out of there having to take baby aspirin and they'd, say I had this, that, and the other thing, and I walked out and they're like, oh my God, you're so healthy. You don't need any of that. And I go, I don't. And I've just lived from that experience for the last, how many of our years of thinking it just because my age says X doesn't mean I have to feel that way, that I should be feeling this vitality and sexy and orgasmic and all of these sorts of things that I never want to lose. And I know there are people out there because I talk to them and they say, you know what? I'm done. I don't care. It doesn't matter to me anymore. I just wanna live my life peacefully. They're not interested in sex at all, mentally, physically, or sexually. I'm hoping like you are that hope will then bring peacefulness and recovery from everything from trauma, sexual abuse, spousal abuse, et cetera. But it will just give everyone that freedom to be living fully living their lives until the day they die. Instead of saying, oh, the day I retire is the day that I close up shop.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Yeah. I, that's what I want for women too. I want'em to feel that they have choice to be who they want to be, and as you mentioned, not everybody's interested in sex. And we do get that question I don't really care about sex anymore, but will this help me in other ways? And, we haven't really touched on this, but let's talk about incontinence.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Oh, yes.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Without estrogen the urethra, can, is very prone to irritation. This, we don't tend to think of the inside of the urethra. The tube that goes from the bladder to the outside of the world. We don't tend to think of that as being a skin layer, but it is a skin layer and it needs estrogen to be healthy. And so when we don't make estrogen anymore, that's when begin to see, an increase in interstitial cystitis and, UTIs. And like that's not just the sneeze incontinence but increased urgency. Where instead of having half an hour from when your body says time to pee, you've got two minutes if you're lucky. think about how that influences how you go out into the world. If you're always wondering where's the nearest bathroom going to be? Estriol is not just. So that you can rebuild your sex life. It's so that you can have, really healthy urinary health for the rest of your life, really well-functioning ur urinary health. And you're just not worried about incontinence, about smelling. These are all real things that women into their sixties and beyond begin to think about. So when we to go back to, we want women's lives to be vital. We want'em to have choice. That includes being able to go out into the world without wondering about whether they're gonna have an accident and struggling with the shame of it when they do. Yeah, we didn't even touch on that one in our really, in our conversation but that's a component to this work too.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:That is amazing. I'm glad you brought it up because I know myself, I've given birth four times. Do not take me on a trampoline because it'll be covered in pee, just straight up. Does it help that much, the Stri L to tighten it up that much, or is that some of the pelvic floor exercises and things like that?
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:It will certainly contribute and the way it will contribute the most is by helping that skin to be healthy and helping the muscles around the bladder and neck to be healthy there at estrogen receptors in the muscles around the bladder and neck. so it contributes definitely part of it. And I could not say enough about pelvic floor exercises to work in partnership with Estriol,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Okay, good. So that should be our next interview is pelvic floor exercises and what to do. And how to do them. I when I was very young, so this was like in the nineties, I was teaching a postpartum, like aerobics class and one of the things we did was trying to get that muscle working again. And I would say, okay, everyone would lay on their backs. This was towards the end of the class, hold. And women were like, how do you hold it? I don't think I'm ever gonna get that strength back down there after delivering my 8, 9, 10 pound, baby. Like some people did. Definitely is a practice, right? It's not like lifting weights, it's something it's very conscious that you have to focus on.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Yeah.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Thank you so much for coming on the show. It was so much fun. I learned a lot and I'm definitely gonna put everything in the show notes so anyone that wants to find out where to find you and everything else they can, but why don't you go ahead and reintroduce. Your line and your brand, and we'll go from there.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Great. Thank you Quincy. It's just been lovely. Given me the chance to do the thing that I love most, which is talk about hormones.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Thank you, Kate. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. So we can find you on Instagram at
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:We are on Instagram And we find us all over Facebook. And our website is www.parlorgames.com. And if you go to our website, you'll find our blogs in there. So much information you can dive into. And of course, all our products are listed there as well.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Wonderful. Great. Thank you so much. And I just wanna say that Kate, you've done more than break down hormones. You've broken openness space for truth, tenderness, and science that actually serves to every woman feeling unseen in her symptoms, confused by her chemistry, or left behind by the medical system. Let this episode remind you, your body is not the problem. It's the beginning of your power. Follow Kate and Parlor Games movement and don't be afraid to ask What if the second act is the sexiest, smartest, and most supported one yet. Thank you, Kate.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Thank you. All the best to you and your listeners,
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Thank you.
squadcaster-85ee_1_11-05-2025_140603:Good luck out there.
quincy--she-her-_1_11-05-2025_130604:Thank you.
